Which column????

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By Anonymous on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 06:52 am:

can anyone recomend an C18 HPLC column that is stable in a wide range of pH (2-12) and supports 100% water for several runs?
does TFA (0,1%) always make shorter the lifetime of the columns or there are more resistant types?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By Uwe Neue on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 04:48 pm:

XTerra MS C18 is stable over a wide pH range. If you give me the details I can advise how stable it is for your application at pH 11 to 12. We have run the column for 45 days at 30 degrees at pH 11.5.
A trifunctionally bonded column (such as the column mentioned above) is more resistant to TFA than monofunctionally bonded columns,


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By Anonymous on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 01:48 am:

thanks Uwe Neue,
I want to use this column to separate acidic compounds trying both with ion suppression (TFA 0.1%) and ion pair (TEA 0.1%) solvents. is in your experience, this xterra MS C18 resistant at 100% water? someone told me after using this column at 100% water it is dewetted (?) and it needs to be rigenerate with 100% organic solvent.
what is the difference between xterra RP18 and Xterra MS C18?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By Uwe Neue on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 04:18 pm:

Dewetting is not a problem with either of the XTerra packings. XTerra MS C18 is a C18 based on a trifunctional silane and has good stability in the acidic pH range. XTerra RP 18 has an embedded polar group, but is based on a monofunctional silane. It gives different selectivity than the classical C18, but due to the monofunctional bonding, it is not stable below pH 2.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By Anonymous on Saturday, May 1, 2004 - 12:49 pm:

that's different from wat waters -rep told me. he told me it is not a good idea to use xterra with 100% water.
why do you think different about this?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By DW on Saturday, May 1, 2004 - 07:11 pm:

The Waters rep was wrong. All XTerra columns are compatible with 100% aqueous conditions. Call 800-252-4752 to confirm and ask to speak with someone from Chemistry Technical Service.

Don't be too hard on the poor sales person for being wrong, Waters has a lot of products.

In addition, if Uwe says the columns are 100% aqueous compatible, you can be pretty sure he's right.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By annav on Sunday, May 2, 2004 - 01:18 pm:

hello,
I would like to know if an HPLC method (gradient) already set up on a
supelcosil LC18 column can be used with a xterra MS C18
column without further changes or should I expect sensible changes in the
separation of the compounds and ritention time?
thanks for the precious suggestions...
annav


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By tom jupille on Sunday, May 2, 2004 - 04:37 pm:

You have to assume that some changes in conditions will be required with *any* column change. Rheodyne makes a database of columns that will let you find the closest equivalent column to your existing one.
http://www.rheodyne.com/products/chromatography/columnmatch/index.asp

They also make a program to identify the combination of changes in conditions that will most closely match your new column to your old:
http://www.rheodyne.com/products/chromatography/methodmatch/

I believe you can download "30-day trial" versions of both.

By way of "truth in advertising", I was involved in the development of both programs prior to the recent "spin-out" of LC Resources by Rheodyne. I do think they represent the best way to accomplish what you're trying to do.


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