HPLC conditions for a very polar guanidine derivative

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By Ganesan Vaidyanathan on Wednesday, December 15, 1999 - 07:10 am:

Hi Everyone!

I have a very polar guanidine which is not retained (ret. vol ~5-6 ml)very well on a C18 column even using a weak solvent like 95:5 0.1%TFA:methanol. Can someone please suggest other systems? Is ion exchange chromatography a better solution? I would like the retention volume to be about 15 ml. thanks

ganesan


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By Uwe Neue on Monday, January 31, 2000 - 05:09 pm:

You can do several things. One suggestion is to use a reversed-phase column that can be used in a solvent with a higher water content. Examples are either an unendcapped C18 column (Resolve C18) or one of these new phases with an incorporated polar groups (SymmetryShield RP18). I would go the second route, since with the older unendcapped C18 you would have to fight for getting a good peak shape.
The alternative is to explore hydrophilic interaction chromatography (HILIC). You can use a silica column as the stationary phase. HILIC works the other way round than reversed-phase chromatography: no retention in water and more retention in acetonitrile/buffer. I would start with around 75% acetonitrile with a buffer. If the retention is too low, increase the acetonitrile content. If it is too low, reduce it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By Chris Pohl on Thursday, February 17, 2000 - 04:00 pm:

I think your chances are much better by cation exchange chromatography. Since a compound of this type is very strongly basic, the separation can probably be readily accomplished over a wide pH range on either a silica or a polymer based cation exchange column.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By Uwe Neue on Thursday, February 17, 2000 - 05:29 pm:

Hi Chris,
I don't see the difficulty. He is getting a retention factor of around 1 to 1.5 with 5% methanol. Taking out the methanol should get him in exactly the right spot....
Uwe


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message  By maris on Saturday, February 19, 2000 - 08:46 pm:

We succussesfully reteined the aminoguanidine on polymeric column with 100% water (pH 11.0).
Dr.A.Weisman, Chemagis Ltd., Israel


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